tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4567787243850242789.post6720116648885215327..comments2023-08-18T12:26:52.573-07:00Comments on Black Men Confronting The Lies And Distortions: Men/Black Men as Mules????????????Rockyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15184158922025670970noreply@blogger.comBlogger61125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4567787243850242789.post-40459333635993118302010-01-02T19:39:33.882-08:002010-01-02T19:39:33.882-08:00I, like, many married women who work full-time car...I, like, many married women who work full-time carry most of the housework and child-rearing load. As a woman it is in my nature to do what needs to be done whether it means bringing in a second income or doing laundry. The desire to have a partner who not only works outside the home but also does his share around the house is not unreasonable. I believe that to expect from your spouse what you are not willing to do is actually treating her or him like a mule. I have no desire to control anyone but myself. No one wins when one spouse feels that doing what needs to be done to maintain family and home is optional.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4567787243850242789.post-91925725315988287312009-11-08T09:17:47.953-08:002009-11-08T09:17:47.953-08:00Isn't that the same for Black men? Didn't ...<i>Isn't that the same for Black men? Didn't the OkCupid study show that Black men were the least desirable men, except for Asians?<br /><br />Black men are not as desired as you believe. Sorry mate.</i><br /><br />This is moot since this isn't an interracial blog worshiping white women and trying to convince black men to date out. Notice that all of the couples I have pictured are black couples.Rockyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15184158922025670970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4567787243850242789.post-70286025826990990002009-11-08T09:12:53.191-08:002009-11-08T09:12:53.191-08:00Jamdown said...
Sarah has it right. She's hap...<i>Jamdown said...<br /><br />Sarah has it right. She's happily married to a White man and is advocating other Black women to do the same.</i><br /><br />Sarah claims to be happily married to a white man. And what does her claim have to do with her constant lies and black male bashing?<br /><br /><i>This is no different than Black men who proclaim their hatred of Black women and who flaunt fat, overweight White women as "all that and a bag of chips".</i><br /><br />Black men don't do this. This is just something that folks like you have made up. The white women that black men date are no fatter than the black women they date.<br /><br /><i>I wonder why you frequent the Black female empowerment blogs since everything they stand for is an anethma to you. They're not going to change. I love their blogs.</i><br /><br />The only thing they do that is anathema is bashing, misrepresenting and flat out lying on black men. <br /><br /><i>I wish them all the best and I hope Black women will begin to broaden their dating/marriage options, like Black women do in Europe and Canada.</i><br /><br />I wish that black women would simply choose better men and stop choosing thugs and players.Rockyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15184158922025670970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4567787243850242789.post-52384198168576017782009-11-08T07:23:27.628-08:002009-11-08T07:23:27.628-08:00Rocky said
"That is why black women are soug...Rocky said<br /><br />"That is why black women are sought less by non-black men than non-black women."<br /><br />Isn't that the same for Black men? Didn't the OkCupid study show that Black men were the least desirable men, except for Asians? <br /><br />Black men are not as desired as you believe. Sorry mate.Kimberlynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4567787243850242789.post-52174974591954003712009-11-08T07:17:11.648-08:002009-11-08T07:17:11.648-08:00Sarah has it right. She's happily married to ...Sarah has it right. She's happily married to a White man and is advocating other Black women to do the same. <br /><br />This is no different than Black men who proclaim their hatred of Black women and who flaunt fat, overweight White women as "all that and a bag of chips".<br /><br />I wonder why you frequent the Black female empowerment blogs since everything they stand for is an anethma to you. They're not going to change. I love their blogs.<br /><br />I wish them all the best and I hope Black women will begin to broaden their dating/marriage options, like Black women do in Europe and Canada.Jamdownnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4567787243850242789.post-10974961388011744582009-09-23T22:34:07.197-07:002009-09-23T22:34:07.197-07:00It's all about angry black women marrying othe...It's all about angry black women marrying other angry black women! <br /><br />Men will never get respect from these women!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4567787243850242789.post-69314248311086526242009-09-23T22:33:52.862-07:002009-09-23T22:33:52.862-07:00It's all about angry black women marrying othe...It's all about angry black women marrying other angry black women! <br /><br />Men will never get respect from these women!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4567787243850242789.post-13963946292461103282009-09-23T13:55:45.160-07:002009-09-23T13:55:45.160-07:00So if a man is supposed to "protect and provi...So if a man is supposed to "protect and provide" then what exactly are these black women supposed to give in return? I keep hearing this argument and it's full of more straw than the scarecrow. <br /><br />I see black men defending their wife and children all the time. Now those women who made poor decisions and find themselves husbandless/manless and need some sort of security are SOL. They never question why they got into those situations...just blame the man for not being something. <br /><br />So...what is the exchange? WE protect and provide even though many of you all have dug a hole yourselves and refuse to check how deep and what exactly should we expect? A badge of courage? Or are we just not measuring up to the white men who protect their women and daughters oh so well? Are these men who are failing to protect off their job also because women teachers are molesting kids at an alarming rate and getting caught?CPT Callamitynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4567787243850242789.post-70405399213660926462009-09-23T13:44:40.142-07:002009-09-23T13:44:40.142-07:00i love this blog. i really do. forget the whole &q...i love this blog. i really do. forget the whole "my blond husband doing my baby's hair" but I wanna see my dreadlocked husband doing my baby's hair! (when i grow up, of course and meet that dreadlocked husband...sigh.) but when i was in 3rd grade, my dad did my hair once and I'll NEVER forget it. But who's to say he didn't love me when he was taking the same time out the "blond husband would"? I love my father even though he wasn't perfect. And that's love, love has nothing to do with some damn chinese food or a broke down car.clarahallow121http://www.thecurlycafe.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4567787243850242789.post-39723500408356804222009-09-23T07:11:09.112-07:002009-09-23T07:11:09.112-07:00Anon said:
I'm wondering how you (Rocky) know...Anon said:<br /><br />I'm wondering how you (Rocky) know what the MAJORITY of black women are like? How do you know what the MAJORITY of black women (married or otherwise) do (or don't do) in their kitchens? <br /><br />1) MOST modern black women are not going to be full-time homemakers. <br /><br />2) MOST modern black women couldn't be full-time homemakers even if they wanted to. <br /><br />3) MOST modern black women are not married. <br /><br />4) Most modern black women who ARE married are not married to men who make enough money to support a stay-at-home wife. <br /><br />Menelik asks:<br /><br />What's the difference between the terms MAJORITY and MOST?<br /><br />Answer: none whatsoever!<br /><br />Why is ok for YOU to speak of what most (or the majority) of what Black women do (or not do) but NOT Bro Rocky?<br /><br />COULD YOU PLEASE ANSWER THIS SIMPLE QUESTION?<br /><br />Menelik Charles<br />London EnglandMenelik Charlesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4567787243850242789.post-32199624043344670982009-09-23T06:54:22.634-07:002009-09-23T06:54:22.634-07:00"For the past 20 years or so black rappers ha..."For the past 20 years or so black rappers have ruthlessly called black women "bitches and hoes" <br /><br /><br />WHY?Barronnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4567787243850242789.post-7342485581468386202009-09-23T06:49:27.989-07:002009-09-23T06:49:27.989-07:00Anon said:
I know you (Rocky) will disagree with ...Anon said:<br /><br />I know you (Rocky) will disagree with this, but you just implied that MOST (not all, but MOST) black women are bitches. <br /><br />I KNOW THAT YOU DID NOT CALL BLACK WOMEN BITCHES but you didn't have to. <br /><br />Everything you just said IMPLIES that you think most (not all, but MOST) modern black women are bitches.<br /><br />Menelik asks:<br /><br />If I maybe bold as to ask you a question or two:<br /><br />1) HOW WOULD YOU DESCRIBE THE BEHAVIOUR AND PERSONNAS OF MOST BLACK WOMEN?<br /><br />2)WOULD YOU PLEASE ANSWER THE QUESTION HONESTLY?<br /><br />Menelik Charles<br />London EnglandMenelik Charlesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4567787243850242789.post-78093932221731608072009-09-23T01:58:04.980-07:002009-09-23T01:58:04.980-07:00@Anon September 22, 2009 10:44 PM
"Why heap ...@Anon September 22, 2009 10:44 PM <br />"Why heap the slurs of rappers upon all black men? <br /><br />I have watched black women listen to music which referred to black women as "b******" and "h***. So both genders are culpable." <br /><br />Rap was originated by black men NOT black women. BLACK MEN are responsible for the defilement of black women. Why didn't the so-called "good" black men stop the filth from happening? <br /><br />"Ladies get a clue! Men want women who act like women!"<br /><br />No SANE woman is going to worship your behind just because you have a penis and testicles. <br /><br />Most modern black men are NOT providers and protectors of women and children.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4567787243850242789.post-46326953151322880672009-09-22T22:44:47.118-07:002009-09-22T22:44:47.118-07:00Why heap the slurs of rappers upon all black men? ...Why heap the slurs of rappers upon all black men? <br /><br />I have watched black women listen to music which referred to black women as "b******" and "h***. So both genders are culpable. <br /><br />These slurring rappers would not be popular if men AND women did not support them and throw money at them!<br /><br />Your argument is moot, wicked banshees!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4567787243850242789.post-74019366254273043832009-09-22T20:21:46.791-07:002009-09-22T20:21:46.791-07:00The PUBLIC humiliation and shame visited upon blac...The PUBLIC humiliation and shame visited upon black women in America is unprecedented. <br /><br />For the past 20 years or so black rappers have ruthlessly called black women "bitches and hoes" while so-called "good" black men stood by silently and did NOTHING. What do modern black women have to be "sweet" about?<br /><br />In the "old days", outstanding "soul men" like Ray Charles, Al Green, Wilson Pickett, Otis Redding, Marvin Gaye, Smokey Robinson, etc., sang of LOVE (good love, bad love and everything in between). Cuss words like "bitch and hoe" were NOWHERE in their music. On the other hand, black rappers over the course of 20 years have made the words "bitch and hoe" synonymous in the public mind with "black womanhood". <br /><br />What, pray tell, do modern black women have to be "sweet" about? "Older" black women were mostly provided for and protected. Not only are most modern black women NOT provided for and protected but they are ROUTINELY called "bitches and hoes" IN PUBLIC with impunity. <br /><br />Are white/Latina/Asian women ROUTINELY referred to as "bitches and hoes" in public by their respective races of men?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4567787243850242789.post-41807352071057496052009-09-22T17:08:54.467-07:002009-09-22T17:08:54.467-07:00Did the witches coven disperse and visit this blog...Did the witches coven disperse and visit this blog?<br /><br />Ladies, get a clue! Men want women who act like women!<br /><br />When you show displeasure, please do so in a womanly manner - not as a lumberjack man!<br /><br />Look at Rocky's videos again about young girls who have been socialized to behave like bullies. That is a clear wake-up call!<br /><br />What's wrong with you she-devils and banshees?!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4567787243850242789.post-30208896572389804932009-09-22T14:07:35.082-07:002009-09-22T14:07:35.082-07:00@Rocky said:
"Today’s black women are commonl...@Rocky said:<br />"Today’s black women are commonly socialized to be fractious and many black women wear this as a badge of honor under the guise of it being “strong”."<br /><br />I know you will disagree with this, but you just implied that MOST (not all, but MOST) black women are bitches. <br /><br />I KNOW THAT YOU DID NOT CALL BLACK WOMEN BITCHES but you didn't have to. Everything you just said IMPLIES that you think most (not all, but MOST) modern black women are bitches. <br /><br />You've said that you are married to a black woman. I suppose you don't consider your wife to be a bitch. Perhaps, you don't consider your mother to be a bitch. <br /><br />I'm wondering how do you know what the MAJORITY of white women are like? How do you know what the MAJORITY of Latino women are like? Actually, how do you know what the MAJORITY of black women are like? How do you know what the MAJORITY of black women (married or otherwise) do (or don't do) in their kitchens? <br /><br />Most modern black women are not going to be full-time homemakers. Most modern black women couldn't be full-time homemakers even if they wanted to. Most modern black women are not married. Most modern black women who ARE married are not married to men who make enough money to support a stay-at-home wife. <br /><br />So what is your solution to the problem of modern black women not being "sweet" and cooking everyday? What's the end game?<br /><br />PS: I know what you mean by "sweet". My mother, grandmothers and aunties were "sweet". Except for one aunt. This one aunt was a single mother (rare for her day). She had no husband and she alternated between being on welfare and cleaning white people's homes. She had the temper of 10 men. I miss the "sweetness" of those old black women and that they cooked every day. But I know it's not coming back. Or do you know something I don't know?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4567787243850242789.post-84705607980353978992009-09-22T12:08:29.696-07:002009-09-22T12:08:29.696-07:00I agree with this post to an extent...not all blac...I agree with this post to an extent...not all black women are like this (but I guess of course this is assumed). I've always thought that if both partners work, there should be equal responsibility in the household. Why not help each other lessen our loads?<br /><br />I just don't get the whole black/white issue, some people just want to go outside the box (but that's beyond the author's statement so I'll leave it at that).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4567787243850242789.post-12277175191188693902009-09-22T11:29:52.507-07:002009-09-22T11:29:52.507-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4567787243850242789.post-1169200841634434942009-09-22T10:39:02.501-07:002009-09-22T10:39:02.501-07:00You can blame the unions and cheap overseas labor ...You can blame the unions and cheap overseas labor for some of that drop in wages not all that is because women entered the workforce.<br />Women have been working for years so that is a cop out. Manufacturing became too expensive in the US so those jobs left.<br />Even if women stayed home those wages are not coming back.<br />Some women love to work anyway.bellydancernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4567787243850242789.post-12860435641586567992009-09-22T10:09:15.022-07:002009-09-22T10:09:15.022-07:00Anon
You imply that being provided for and being ...Anon<br /><br />You imply that being provided for and being protected motivates a woman to be sweet. That’s just not reality. Today’s black women are commonly socialized to be fractious and many black women wear this as a badge of honor under the guise of it being “strong”. How well a man treats her has little bearing on how she behaves toward him. If anything, her behavior is more likely to be affected by how much he can impress and/or intimidate her.<br /><br />The problem is that most men are not impressive. Most men are average. All an average man can do is his best and doing his best to protect and provide for his wife will far from ensure that she treats him lovingly and with respect. If anything, such things are more likely to have the opposite effect. It becomes viewed as the “nice guy syndrome” that women commonly have little respect for. Black women seem to have cornered the market on the lack of respect for “nice guys”.<br /><br />Some men rely on intimidation in an attempt to curb fractious behavior in their women, but this commonly results in domestic violence and one can argue that the fractious behavior so prevalent among black women has developed the tendency for black men to react in harsh manners to their women. The notion that it is the other way around is faulty since it is the nicer guys that black women tend to be most disrespectful of and testy toward.<br /><br />Understand that black women in the past who worked full time cooked far more than today’s working black women and showed their men more love and respect. Likewise, the few married black women who don’t work cook far less than the non-working black wives of the past and show their men less love and respect. White people today hold on to traditional gender roles to a greater extent than blacks, thus white women are more prone to accepting the role as nurturer and the main preparer of meals than black women are. Hispanic women today tend to work full time, yet practically do all of the cooking and often cook daily.<br /><br />As far as women having to work today, do you know what one of the main reasons is? Becoming nearly half of the work force was something women desired to do as opposed to needing to do. This caused a saturation of the work force that naturally resulted in lower wages for everyone in relation to cost of living. This resulted in the average household not being able to survive without the woman working full time. If women had not poured into the workforce, men’s wages would have been higher and able to sustain households without the second income. Thus, women’s desire to work resulted in women’s need to work.Rockyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15184158922025670970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4567787243850242789.post-32678265175578118332009-09-22T08:34:57.361-07:002009-09-22T08:34:57.361-07:00My father's job supported the family. Most bla...My father's job supported the family. Most black people today do not live anything like how my parents lived (including me), therefore, the modern paradigm between the sexes is totally different. I don't see the paradigm turning back to what it was in the past. Most women today HAVE to work outside the home whether they are married or not. If I have to work a stressful job JUST LIKE YOU DO, why am I required to be "sweet".<br /><br /><br />Most women HAVE to work outside the home...but that's what you all were fighting for. American women were tired of being stay at home moms and "abandoning their dreams" for their family, which the feminists decried as oppressive. So...women entered the workforce, demanded equal pay and positions and really have no right to complain. Many of you all brought this on yourselves. <br /><br />Speaking of familial economics: You are right when you say that the man could support the family. Well, thanks to the end of the industrial age and the birth of the service/information age, those jobs don't exist abundantly anymore. Also, the dual income household, made prevalent by women entering the work force enforce did nothing but increase the price on living as well as shave off precious family development time within the homes. Honestly though: YOU ALL ASKED FOR IT. Live with it. Your grandmother was provided and protected because back then a man could work for $18 and hour and support a family (and that's with an unskilled labor poistion at a factory). Now...he's lucky to get $12 an hour (probably being a desk jockey) in 2009 money and still is expected to support a family.<br /><br />You all have to see that you all can't have everything your way. Not to argue but so many of you compare us men to yesteryears without taking consideration any historical data that addresses wages and earnings in the post-industrial age.CPT Callamitynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4567787243850242789.post-85584048968020430852009-09-22T03:38:53.408-07:002009-09-22T03:38:53.408-07:00"All we ask for is a woman who will cook a me..."All we ask for is a woman who will cook a meal on regular occasion and not spend all of her spare hours in an inclined position talking on the telephone. We also want women who are sweet."<br /><br />It ALL depends on how a man "provides and protects". Grandma probably was sweeter than today's black woman but grandma was provided for and protected unlike today's black woman. <br /><br />My parents were married to each other and there were no illegitimate children on either side. My mother (I'm giving my approximate age here) <br />cooked several times every day BUT SHE DID NOT WORK OUTSIDE THE HOME. <br /><br />My father's job supported the family. Most black people today do not live anything like how my parents lived (including me), therefore, the modern paradigm between the sexes is totally different. I don't see the paradigm turning back to what it was in the past. Most women today HAVE to work outside the home whether they are married or not. If I have to work a stressful job JUST LIKE YOU DO, why am I required to be "sweet".<br /><br />I repeat, grandma (in my case, my mother) was provided for and protected. My mother did not work outside the home. Yes, my mother was "sweet". But she didn't have a job outside the home.<br /><br />I am not anon September 21, 2009 3:02 PM although I agree with her comment(s).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4567787243850242789.post-18669042386070990462009-09-21T22:06:05.086-07:002009-09-21T22:06:05.086-07:00The 21st century black female mantra of "stro...The 21st century black female mantra of "strong black woman" is merely a derivative of white feminist "strong woman" lunacy.<br /><br />If you want to be a strong black woman, then continue your path towards the gay life - black women married to black women. <br /><br />This "strong black woman" movement is only peculiar to the United States. Your behavior is actually hurting feminine black women in other parts of the world. <br /><br />Get a clue, ladies with bad attitudes! Seriously, most men do not find your "strong black woman" attitude worthy of marriage! If y'all want equality, then play pro football and play with the real men in the field!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4567787243850242789.post-59666334792278407042009-09-21T20:03:41.467-07:002009-09-21T20:03:41.467-07:00Sorry anon. This site site is ripe with stats and...Sorry anon. This site site is ripe with stats and studies. You don't want them to be credible, but that doesn't mean that they are not.<br /><br />Second, the word "strength" when referencing today's black women really means being truculent and having a bad attitude. In reality, that is FAR from "strength". And when folks say "let a man be a man", that means not being antagonistic toward a man being a man. In other words, not bitching and wining because a man does things that are normal and natural for men do do.<br /><br />And yes, a selfish, bitchy and truculent woman is a problem in a relationship.<br /><br />And I have posted a study indicating for one, that men who are not with their children's mothers are far more likely to NOT be in their children's lives than men who are with the mothers of their children. Likewise, the lower a man's income, the greater the chance of him not being a part of his children's lives. So the greater tendency of black men being absent from their children's lives is related to the greater tendency to not be with their children's mothers and the greater tendency to have lower incomes. When white men and black men of similar incomes who are not with the mothers of their children are compared, the black men are actually more likely to be active in their children's lives.<br /><br />Also, this very blog referencing Sarah's blog entry shows how women such as yourself define manhood based on how much a man takes the load off of you. All we ask for is a woman who will cook a meal on regular occasion and not spend all of her spare hours in an inclined position talking on the telephone. We also want women who are sweet. <br /><br />Where are all the black women like your grandmother? Heck, my mother shakes her head at these black women today. I will bet you anything that if your grandfather at a youthful age was suddenly thrust into today's time, he would be thoroughly disgusted with these modern black women.<br /><br />And please read carefully. I put the blame at 50/50. Unfortunately, black women such as yourself often have trouble taking responsibility for anything.Rockyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15184158922025670970noreply@blogger.com